Apr 18, 2026

Terri Petersen interviews Heather Pack for our series “women outside the Garden” discussing the concept of “holy disruptors” as those who challenge accepted norms to create long-term solutions.  They explore biblical examples of women who advocated for change against the system of their day, including the Canaanite woman who challenged Jesus’ boundaries and the five fatherless daughters who approached Moses to change existing inheritance laws.  Heather emphasized that disruptors should focus on fixing systems rather than just creating chaos and highlighted how Jesus himself was a disruptor who encouraged others, particularly women to speak up and advocate for themselves.

Terri and Heather discuss the concept of obedience and sovereignty in religious practice, particularly about President Nelsons quote  “exact obedience brings miracles”.  They explore how Mormon women can navigate making independent decisions while seeking to live a life with God.

This episode focuses on courages women in the Bible, willing to advocate for themselves, even if it means breaking the status quo

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